Did Jesus die on the cross?

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Did Jesus die on the cross?

Post  sophie on Sat 16 Feb 2008, 9:30 pm

As against the teaching of the Master (Jesus) that salvation only comes through keeping of the commandments (Mathew 19:16-17), Paul nails the law and the commandments to the cross Paul nails the law and the commandments to the cross (Colossians 2:14) 1 and claims that salvation can only be obtained through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ

"If Christ be not risen from the dead, then our preaching is vain, and your faith is also vain." (1 Corinthians 15:14)

If Jesus died on the cross then why
They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. He (Jesus) said to them, why are troubled and why do doubts rise in your mids? Look at my hands and feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have (Luke 24:39)

As an atheist I would here agree with Jesus, he smply escaped from death and he was alive for if he was dead then the disciples could not touch his flesh.

Why did Jesus disguise as a Gardner

To flee jews Jesus disguised as a gardner "Thinking he was the gardner, she said, "Sir,, if you have carried him away, tell me where have you put him and I will get get him" (John 20:15). This is a clear proof that cruifixion was actually a fiction.

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Re: Did Jesus die on the cross?

Post  Waqar Daniel on Sat 16 Feb 2008, 9:49 pm

The answer to your question is Yes Jesus died on the cross. Now you are quoting muslim scholars? Resurrection means, to be raised up in bodily form. We see spirits because on judgement day, every body will be raised up just like Jesus Christ was raised up by the power of Heavenly Father. We talk of resurrected body and not resurrected spirit.

The disciples were confused because this was the first time they were seeing a Resurrected Body. No where in the recorded history a person was seen in a bodily form after his death. We have seen records of spirits of dead people interacting with relatives or tribes but no one has ever heard of a person dying and then after his death, was raised up in body. Jesus showed His disciples that He died and was raised up from the dead and He was alive.

You have quoted muslims here, so in their faith also, everyone will be raised up in bodily form on the day of judgement.

Regarding Mary, it is written that she thought that she was talking to a gardner. It is not written that Jesus disguised Himself as a gardner. Now don't twist the verses of the Bible. When tears roll down your cheek, you vision gets blurred and so this is what happened to Mary. With all that grief and tears, she could not make out whom she was talking to.

Sometimes, I think, if muslims are correct in saying that Jesus was not crucified, then, all the Jews, the Roman Empire were the biggest fools of all time. For they could not understand whether Jesus had died on the cross or not. Specially this would make all those Jews really stupid and idiots who demanded for the crucifixion of Jesus. Do you think, that they would let Jesus escape death?

In fear of a revolt, Pilate gave over Jesus to be crucified, knowing that He was innocent, do you think, if Jesus escaped, would he be afraid of revolt and the King of his failure to perform a duty?

The most important thing is that if Jesus died and was not resurrected, then where are His bones? Where did He go? The Bible says, that Heavenly Father raised Him from the dead and He now sits at the right hand of Heavenly Father. Jesus is alive and He is the only LORD and Savior. Every tongue in the end would confess that Jesus is LORD and Savior, so why not to accept it now, for it is never late. Yes it will be too late when you die.

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Re: Did Jesus die on the cross?

Post  forhisglory on Mon 18 Feb 2008, 5:50 pm

As you can see, there are many atheist that come to see the Christian pages. How ironic yet they do not believe in God for one reason alone, because they do not want to stop doing what is evil. Jesus said you do not come to the light for fear that your evil deeds might be expose, also The fool has said in his heart their is no God. Yet in Israel there are findings of Pilate and King Herod's tombstone, but no place else in history are these two individuals mention. I wonder what they all have to say about this? And wend a atheist dies who do you think they call upon. This atheist doctor has seen many atheist and Christians die, Yet when he saw the horror in the faces of the Atheist and the peace on the Christians, he started to pay attention. They all need to see the trailer, To Hell and Back. Most of these Atheist die went to hell and came back to tell the story, a few of them were doctors KGB, Gangster and very educated people with masters degree. But all of them atheist now after the ordeal of Hell, they all became Christians living and going strong for Christ. The only God these people have is themselves. May God open your eyes to all the evidence there is about Archaeologist findings in Israel every day. But these people do not want truth, if it was smacking them in their faces. I love and pray for all the atheist in the world do not let pride keep you from heaven. forhisglory confused

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What was nailed to the cross

Post  Raymond on Sat 23 Feb 2008, 2:33 am

What was nailed to the cross was your sins in the person of Jesus. Do some further research and you will fime the "law contained in ordences' was a Greek expression for the legal written dept owed. The ten commandments could not have been done away with or I would be all right to commit adualtry and kill etc. but it's not. Shocked

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