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Post  Lazar Gill on Sat 26 Apr 2008, 1:18 pm

I would like to know if we can pray after a love one, relative or freind dies. e.g. for his good ness to God or for his mercy etc.
And secound part of the question is how to bury a dead one. Any biblical procedure or obligation regarding this cermony. Like diffrent denomination are having there rituals or practices, are these biblical? i hope my question is understood.

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Re: Pray for dead person

Post  Waqar Daniel on Sat 26 Apr 2008, 1:52 pm

Dear Lazar

What you are asking is about the muslim ritual of "Fatiah" (praying for forgiveness of a dead one). There is no such concept of forgiveness of sins after death even if you pray million times a day for the person who has died. So one part of your question is answered.

Now coming to the second part, various denominations have different rituals for burial but the prayer is same. So it does not matter, how we are buried, what is important is whether we have died in Christ or not.

Bible is not based on human traditions and philosophies like other religions are based on. Other religions will teach you which hand to use to eat, which foot you have to place first while entering your house, how to bathe and so on. Bible is based on spiritual things and how to achieve them.

God bless you and your family.

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Re: Pray for dead person

Post  Lazar Gill on Sat 26 Apr 2008, 6:38 pm

Dear Waqar
Thanks , for your prompt reply, would you mind to Elaborate on your answer of second part, extracted below:
"Now coming to the second part, various denominations have different rituals for burial but the prayer is same"

what is that same prayer?
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Re: Pray for dead person

Post  Waqar Daniel on Sun 27 Apr 2008, 1:06 am

Dear Lazar

Normally Psalm 23 is read in Christian funerals. There is no set rule of what to pray, family members can ask the Pastor to read verses from the Bible that remind them of the deceased. Mostly go with Beatitudes (Mathew 5) and mostly those beatitudes are selected that remind the relatives of the nature of the deceased.

Jewish Custom
In Jewish custom, Pslam 23 was sung at the thrid sabbath meal on Saturday afternoon,

It is also sung during the Yizkor service. Sephardic and some Hassidic Jews also sing during Friday afternoon services and as part of the Sabbath night and day meals. It is read at a cemetery funeral service instead of the traditional prayer during Jewish holidays.

Funeral Prayer Service

I am writing the most common prayers that are read for the dead and for the relatives by the Pastor. As my experience goes, the Pastor go through those prayers that they have been taught in the seminary. However, the set up of last rites is same. The Pastor calls for a Pslam to be sung, either 91 or picked up the relatives. Then the Pastor pray for the deceased and then for the family and then while going to graveyard, it is up to the Pastor to keep on reading a Psalm. I am no Pastor but I did discuss this thing with my friend who is an ordained Pastor and he gave me all this information.
Heavenly Father,
you have not made us for darkness and death,
but for life with you for ever.
Without you we have nothing to hope for;
with you we have nothing to fear.
Speak to us now your words of eternal life.
Lift us from anxiety and guilt
to the light and peace of your presence,
and set the glory of your love before us;
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Amen.


Lord Jesus, our redeemer,
you willingly gave yourself up to death,
so that all might be saved and pass from death to life.
By dying you unlocked the gates of life
for all those who believe in you.
So we commend [Name] into your arms of mercy,
believing that, with sins forgiven,
he/she will share a place of happiness, light and peace
in the kingdom of your glory for ever.
Amen.

Almighty God,
you love everything you have made
and judge us with infinite mercy and justice.
We rejoice in your promises of pardon, joy and peace
to all those who love you.
In your mercy turn the darkness of death into the dawn of new life,
and the sorrow of parting into the joy of heaven;
through our Saviour Jesus Christ,
who died, rose again, and lives for evermore.
Amen.

Prayer for Mourners
Father of all mercies and God of all consolation,
you pursue us with untiring love
and dispel the shadow of death
with the bright dawn of life.
Give courage to this family in their loss and sorrow.
Be their refuge and strength, O Lord,
reassure them of your continuing love
and lift them from the depths of grief
into the peace and light of your presence.
Your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ,
by dying has destroyed our death,
and by rising, restored our life.
Your Holy Spirit, our comforter,
speaks for us in groans too deep for words.
Come alongside your people,
remind them of your eternal presence
and give them your comfort and strength.
Amen.


Psalm of Comfort
As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after Thee, O God.
My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: 'When shall I come and appear before God?'
My tears have been my food day and night, while they say unto me all the day: 'Where is Thy God?'
These things I remember, and pour out my soul within me, how I passed on with the throng, and led them to the house of God, with the voice of joy and praise, a multitude keeping holyday.
Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why moanest thou within me? Hope thou in God; for I shall yet praise Him for the salvation of His countenance.


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Re: Pray for dead person

Post  rcalo on Fri 09 May 2008, 3:40 am

I was raised a catholic, and in that religion they do pray for the dead, believing that they are acting as an intercessor for the soul of that person and helping them to get to heaven more quickly. (also, remember that catholics believe in Purgatory so it makes more sense that they would pray for the dead)

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Re: Pray for dead person

Post  Littlelamb on Fri 09 May 2008, 9:09 pm

Dear Lazar Gill, pray for the living that still have a chance to be redeemed. Once death has passed, there is no chance for redemption.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

When prayers are offered at Christian funerals, it is for the ones that are still here. I pray that this helps your understanding.

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Re: Pray for dead person

Post  Waqar Daniel on Sun 11 May 2008, 5:08 am

The only thing we should remember is that we must die in Jesus Christ.

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