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Post  rodgertutt on Fri 20 Feb 2009, 2:26 pm

THE WORLD’S MOST EVIL BELIEFS – IMHO

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

The world’s most evil beliefs & the most important issue

The eternal torment theology of the Arminian Christian relies on so-called “free will” and luck.

The god that Arminian Christian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures

“Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you don’t have the good sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then I am going to raise you from the dead and I will sustain you alive in an inescapable state of eternal torment forever.”

The eternal torment theology of the Calvinist Christian relies on God alone, not “free will” at all. It is summed up by the word TULIP: Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace, and the Perseverance of the elect.

The god that Calvinistic Christian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures

"I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever. However, I am going to choose a few of you undeserving ones to go to heaven where you will be happy forever." John Calvin said there will be infants a span long in hell because they were not among the elect. (A span is the distance between the tip of the thumb to the tip of the little finger.)

And then both the Arminian and Calvinistic eternal tormentors say that the feelings that they have for this god of theirs is “love.”

Without God’s sustaining power everyone would cease to exist. So if anyone were to suffer forever, our all-powerful God (Who is Love in essence, not just loving) would be fully 100% responsible for it. We would have to conclude that any definition of the manifestation of “love-in-essence” includes eternally sustaining people alive in an inescapable state of suffering.


http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

What a travesty; what a revolting definition of love it is that God, Who is love personified, would grant any creature a will so strong that they can choose themselves into an irreversible state of never ending suffering (Arminian) or deserve to suffer forever just by being born into the human race (Calvinist)!!

Thank God the Bible does not teach such insane ideas!


http://www.godfire.net/eby/saviour_of_the_world.html

http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm

http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm

Copy and paste one of the following titles into Google

SAVIOR OF THE WORLD SERIES EBY

Or

ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST

Or

UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY

Anyone is welcome to believe anything they want to about what the Bible teaches.

I'm just so glad I learned about the following information.
It enabled me to recover from a twelve year nervous breakdown 1966-78.
I'm 70 now.
I, and many others with whom I have become acquainted, simply could not successfully emotionally cope with the idea that God would let anyone suffer forever. Here is the testimony of Charles Slagle who went insane for the same reasons that I did.


Copy and paste the following title into Google
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST or click on
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html
http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm

Eternal Torment Calvinism, Eternal Torment Arminianism, Annihilation, or Christian Biblical Universalism.

Which one of the four is the truth?

This debate nearly always ends with the words, "My Greek scholars are more reliable

than your Greek scholars," and the result is a stalemate.

If readers think it glorifies God more to believe that He is going to let some of His

creatures suffer forever or annihilate them, then they should keep believing that.

But if they think it glorifies God more to eventually meet everyone on the level of their

greatest and deepest need, which is a change in their stubborn will, then I would like

them to know that that is exactly what the Bible teaches that God is like.

THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE

The findings of Greek scholar Louis Abbott and the other Greek scholars quoted in

chapters three and twelve of his online book IMHO renders all other arguments irrelevant.

IMHO these findings effectively close the case on the arguments that eternal tormentors try so hard to uphold.

But of course one has to actually read them to see what I mean.

Just Google up AN ANALYTICAL STUDY OF WORDS and enjoy, or click on

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/index.html

The following colored chapter links probably may be activated on this post.


  • About the Author
  • Dedication
  • Forward
  • Chapter1 - Definitions of Aion, Aionios
  • Chapter2 - Usages of Aion
  • Chapter3 - Opinion of the Scholars
  • Chapter4 - Apparent Contradictions
  • Chapter5 - "Forever and Ever" - A Poor Translation
  • Chapter6 - What Saith The Translations?
  • Chapter7 - Eonian Means What? - A Search For Truth
  • Chapter8 - Greek Tools
  • Chapter9 - Examples in Greek Literature
  • Chapter10 - Bibles Without "Everlasting Punishment"
  • Chapter11 - Verses "Proving" Punishment Will be Everlasting
  • Chapter12 - Scholars Acknowledge Restitution of All
  • Chapter13 - Punishment? Yes - Everlasting? No
  • Chapter14 - A Long, But Not Eternal Visit To "Hell"
  • Chapter15 - The "Chosen," Not "I have chosen"
  • Chapter16 - Clearing Things Up
  • Chapter17 - The Complete Revelation
  • Appendix 1 - Commentary of Previous Presentation
  • Appendix 2 - Do You Believe ALL in the Bible?
  • Appendix 3 - Reconciliation Scriptures
  • Appendix 4 - What Pleases the Father?
  • Appendix 5 - What if we are Wrong?
  • Christian Biblical Universalism versus Annihilation
  • http://www.tentmaker.org/books/EternalDeath.html
  • Bible Threatenings Explained
  • http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
  • Universal Salvation University
  • http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm


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Re: The world’s most evil beliefs & the most important issue

Post  Waqar Daniel on Fri 20 Feb 2009, 2:45 pm

Dear Rodger

This is the Third time, that you have posted the same article. We are not interested in your theory. This is First Warning to you, to stop posting same content again and again. I am personally not interested in reading your Lame Excuse of "Nervous Breakdown" again and again. You know very well no one here wants to read what satan has sowed in your heart.

You want to justify yourself by twisting the verses of the Bible and deceiving others. Open your eyes before it is too late. You cannot change God according to your wishes and neither you can cover your sins. however, you must and have to change yourself according to the will of God and this is the only solution.

I humbly request you to post your articles, some where, they are acceptable. This is strictly Christian website and I personally do not tolerate somebody trying to pollute my faith through deception and trying to mislead others.

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WHAT GOD HAS SAID

Post  rodgertutt on Fri 20 Feb 2009, 3:01 pm

OK I'm gone.

Please put a ban on my computer IP address so I don't accidentally post here again. Thanks.

Sorry to bother you!

Thank you for your patience and God bless your forum.

From Rodger Tutt in Toronto Canada.


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Re: The world’s most evil beliefs & the most important issue

Post  Waqar Daniel on Fri 20 Feb 2009, 3:04 pm

You did not listen to me and this is Second Warning to you. Go to some other website that would appreciate your articles.

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PLEASE BAN MY COMPUTER IP ADDRESS - THANKS

Post  rodgertutt on Fri 20 Feb 2009, 3:12 pm

Waqar Daniel wrote:
You did not listen to me and this is Second Warning to you. Go to some other website that would appreciate your articles.
OK I'm gone.

Please put a ban on my computer IP address so I don't accidentally post here again. Thanks.

Sorry to bother you!

Thank you for your patience and God bless your forum.

From Rodger Tutt in Toronto Canada.

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Re: The world’s most evil beliefs & the most important issue

Post  Waqar Daniel on Fri 20 Feb 2009, 3:16 pm

Dear Rodger

Thank you for understanding and God bless you too and may God open your eyes and heart so that you may see the light and follow it too.

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