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Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 4:56 am

THE BIRTH OF "GOD"

"God" Was Created From The Seed of David: "Concerning his Son
Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the SEED of David
according to the flesh." (Romans, 1:3)
"God" Was The Fruit of the Loins of David. "Therefore being a prophet,
and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the
fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ
to sit on his throne." (Acts, 2:30)
The Ancestors of "God": "The generations of Jesus Christ, the son of
David, the son of Abraham." (Matthew, 1:1)
The Sex of "God": "And when eight days were accomplished for the
circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus." (Luke, 2:21)
How Mary Conceived and Delivered "God": Mary conceived Jesus like any
other woman: "The days were accomplished that she should be
delivered," (Luke, 2:6) - which means that she went through all the
normal stages of pregnancy. Nor was her delivery any different from other
expectant mothers: "And she being with child cried, travailing in
birth, and pained to be delivered." (Revelation, 12:2)
"God" Sucked The Paps of a Woman: "And it came to pass, as he
spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her
voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and
the paps which thou hast sucked." (Luke, 11:27)
The Country of Origin of "God": Jesus was born in Bethlehem of
Judaea in the days of Herod the king. (Matthew, 2:1)
The Occupation of "God": Jesus was a carpenter by trade (Mark, 6:3),
and the son of a carpenter. (Matthew, 13:55)
The Transport of "God": "Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek,
and sitting upon an ass." (Matthew, 21:5). "And Jesus, when he
had found a young ass, sat thereon." (John, 12:14)
The Wining and Dining "God": "The Son of man came eating and
drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a
winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners." (Matthew, 11:19;
Luke, 7:34)
The Poverty of "God": "And Jesus saith unto him,The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." (Matthew, 8:20)
The Meagre Possessions of "God": "Shoes" of Jesus. (Luke, 3:16).
"Garments" and "coat" of Jesus. (John, 19:23)
God" Was a Devout Jew: "And in the morning, rising up a great
while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place,
and there prayed." (Mark, 1:35)
"God" Was a Loyal Subject: Jesus was a good citizen; he was loyal to
Caesar. He said: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which
are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's." (Matthew,
22:21). He paid his tax regularly. (Matthew, 17:24-27)


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 4:58 am

THE FAMILY OF "GOD"

"God" Was the Son of Joseph: "Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith
unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the
prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, THE SON OF
JOSEPH," (John, 1:45)
Brothers and Brothers-in-law of "God": "And when he was come into
his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said,Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is
not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and
his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his
sisters, are they not all with us? Whence hath this man all these
things?" (Matthew, 13:54-56).


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:02 am

THE DEVELOPMENT OF "GOD"

Spiritual Development of "God": "And the child grew, and waxed
strong in spirit, filled with wisdom." (Luke, 2:40)
Mental, Physical and Moral Development of "God": "And Jesus
increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and
man." (Luke, 2:52)
"God" Was Twelve Years Old When His Parents Took Him to Jerusalem:
"Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the
passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up to
Jerusalem after the custom of the feast." (Luke, 2:41-42)
The Powerless "God": Jesus said, "I can of mine own self do
nothing." (John, 5:30)
"God" Was Ignorant of the Time: Jesus said, "But of that day and that
hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark, 13:32)
"God" Was Ignorant of the Season: "And on the morrow, when they
were come from Bethany, he (Jesus) was hungry: And seeing a fig
tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find
anything thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but
leaves; for the time of figs was not yet." (Mark, 11:12-13)
"God Was Unlettered: "Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went
up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying,
How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?" (John, 7:14-
15)
"God' Learnt Through Experience: "Learned he obedience by the
things which he suffered." (Hebrews, 5:Cool


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:05 am

THE TEMPTING OF "GOD"

The Devil Tempted "God" For 40 Days: "And immediately the spirit
driveth him into the wilderness. And he was there in the
wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan." (Mark, 1:12-13)
The Devil Tempted "God" Continuously: "And when the devil had
ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a
season." (Luke, 4:13)
Like The Sinners, "God" Was Tempted In All Things: "But (he) was in
all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews, 4:15)
True God Cannot be Tempted With Evil: "God cannot be tempted with
evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James, 1:13)
Only The Ungodly Are Tempted With Evil: "But every man is tempted,
when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed." (James,
1:14)


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:07 am

THE MISSION OF "GOD"

The Confession and Repentance of "God": Before the beginning of his
public ministry, Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist (Matthew,
3:13), which signified the confession of sins (Matthew, 3:6), and
repentance from sins (Matthew, 3:11)
"God" Did Not Come to Save the Sinners: "And when he was alone,
they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the
parable. And he said unto them, unto you it is given to know the
mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without,
all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see,
and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand;
LEST AT ANY TIME THEY SHOULD BE CONVERTED, AND THEIR SINS SHOULD BE FORGIVEN
THEM." (Mark, 4:10-12)

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:09 am

THE RACIAL "GOD"


"God" Was A Tribal Jew: "The Lion of the tribe of Juda." (Revelation,
5:5)
"God" Came For The Jews Only: "But he answered and said, I am not
sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew,
15:24)
Racial Discrimination of "God": "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and
commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles,
and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to
the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew, 10:5-6)
According to "God", The Gentiles Are Dogs: "It is not meet to take the
children's bread, and to cast it to dogs." (Matthew, 15:26)
The Kingdom of "God": "And he (Jesus) shall reign over THE HOUSE
OF JACOB for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no
end." (Luke, 1:33)
The Titles of "God": "The King of the Jews". (Matthew, 2:2); "The
King of Israel". (John, 1:49; 12:13)


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:11 am

A "GOD" UNLIKE THE GOD


A Hungry "God": "And when he had fasted forty days and forty
nights, he was afterward an HUNGERED." (Matthew, 4:2). "Now in
the morning as he returned into the city, he
HUNGERED." (Matthew, 21:18). "And on the morrow, when they
were come from Bethany, he was HUNGRY." (Mark, 11:12)
A Thirsty "God": "(He) saith, I THIRST." (John, 19:28)
A Sleepy "God": "He was ASLEEP." (Matthew. 8:24). "He fell
ASLEEP." (Luke, 8:23). "And he was in the hinder part of the ship,
ASLEEP on a pillow." (Mark. 4:38)
A Weary "God": "Jesus therefore, being WEARIED with his journey,
sat thus on the well." (John, 4:6)
A Groaning "God": "He GROANED in the spirit, and was
TROUBLED." (John, 11:33). "Jesus therefore again GROANING in
himself cometh to the grave." (John, 11:38)
A Weeping "God": "Jesus WEPT". (John, 11:35)
A Sorrowing "God": "And (he) began to be SORROWFUL and VERY
HEAVY." (Matthew, 26:37). "Then saith he unto them, My soul is
EXCEEDING SORROWFUL, even unto death." (Matthew, 26:38)
A Hysterical "God": "And (he) began to be SORE AMAZED and to be
VERY HEAVY." (Mark, 14:33)
A Weak "God": "And there appeared an angel unto him from
heaven, STRENGTHENING him." (Luke, 22:43)

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:12 am

THE WARRING "GOD"

The Strong-Arm Method of "God": "And he went into the temple, and
began TO CAST OUT them that sold therein, and them that
bought." (Luke, 19:45). "And the Jews' Passover was at hand, and
Jesus went up to Jerusalem, And found in the temple those that
sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money
sitting: And when he had made a SCOURGE of small cords, HE
DROVE THEM ALL OUT of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen;
and POURED OUT the changers' money, and OVERTHREW the
tables." (John, 2:13-15)
The "God" of War: Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to send
peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a
SWORD." (Matthew, 10:34)
The Sabre-Rattling "God": Jesus said: "And he that hath no sword, let
him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke, 22:36)


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:13 am


THE "GOD" ON THE RUN



"God" Was Panic-Stricken: "After these things Jesus walked in
Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought
to kill him." (John, 7:1)
"God" Walked in Fear of the Jews: "Then from that day forth they
took counsel together for to put him to death. Jesus therefore
walked no more openly among the Jews." (John, 11:53-54)
"God" Has Shown A Clean Pair of Heels: "Therefore they sought again
to take him: but he escaped out of their hand." (John, 10:39)
"God" Fled in Disguise: "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but
Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the
midst of them, and so passed by." (John, 8:59)

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:14 am

THE CAPTURE OF "GOD"

A Friend Betrayed The Secret Hiding Place of "God": "And Judas also,
which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus oft-times resorted
thither with his disciples. Judas then, having received a band of
men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh
thither with lanterns and torches and weapons." (John, 18:2-3)
"God" Was Arrested, Bound and Led Away: "Then the band and the
captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him, and
led him away." (John, 18:12-13)
"God" Was Humiliated: "And the men that held Jesus mocked him,
and smote him. And when they had blindfolded him, they struck
him on the face." (Luke, 22:63-64). "Then did they spit in his face,
and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their
hands." (Matthew, 26:67)
"God" Was Defenceless: "One of the officers which stood by struck
Jesus with the palm of his hand", he said, "Why smitest thou
me?" (John, 18:22-23)
"God" Was Condemned to Death: "And they all condemned him to be
guilty of death." (Mark, 14:64). "They answered and said, He is
guilty of death." (Matthew, 26:66)
The Dumb and Docile "God": "He was led as a sheep to the
slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he
not his mouth." (Acts, 8:32)


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 5:19 am

THE SUPPOSED END OF "GOD"


The Dying "God": "And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up
the ghost." (Mark, 15:37)
The "God" that was supposed Dead and Defunct: "Christ
died." (Romans, 5:6). "He was dead". (John, 19:33)
The supposed Corpse of "God": "He (Joseph of Arimathaea) went to
Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the
body to be delivered." (Matthew, 27:58)
The "Shroud" of "God": "And when Joseph had taken the body, he
wrapped it in a clean linen cloth." (Matthew, 27:59)
The "Obituary" of the "Late" and Lamented "God": "Now when the
centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly
this was a righteous man." (Luke, 23:47)

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  Waqar Daniel on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 9:20 pm

It is all written in the Bible and we all know these verses. You missed many things.

  • Jesus forgave sins
  • Commanded storms to calm down
  • cursed fig tree
  • He raised dead
  • He created eyes
  • Healed the sick
  • cast out demons
  • Commanded satan
  • Angels attended to Him
  • Gave authority to His disciples to do the same
  • Died on the cross (you mentioned this part but did not mention the the other half part), He raised from the dead and appeared to many and gave them authority to preach, heal the sick, cure the lepers, raise the dead and cast our demons.
  • Charge against Jesus that He claimed to be Son of God.
  • Jesus talked off judging the sins of the world.
  • You did not mention that He ascended to Heavens
Why didn't you mention all these things because in Koran only Allah can do these things, like forgive sins, create things, raise dead. Therefore, all your reasoning is foolish and childish.

I will comment on it after two days and in mean time you make us all laugh with your inferior knowledge. Remember, I will answer your posts.

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Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the LORD Jesus Christ. (Philemon 1:3)


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  ilovejesus on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 9:57 pm

He also failed to mention that Jesus has authority in heavens and on earth.

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  palmtree on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 10:02 pm

What makes allah god? He is sinless and does not desire to sin.

What makes Jesus God, He was found to be sinless and He never desired to sin. I have little knowledge of koran but this I know that only Jesus is known as sinless in Koran.

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  walkinginJesus on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 10:21 pm

lol! Real funny stuff from Derprinz. Jesus came as a man born of a woman, walked among men, ate and drank like even cried. This was his human nature he shared with us and did wonders and miracles that only God can do. He shared both His human nature and Godly nature with us.

I believe that if Jesus wouldn't have done miracles, he would have asked God did not do any miracles. I believe he would ask God came on earth? Well He created it and everything belongs to Him then why not?

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 11:12 pm

who told you that Jesus come for you lol!
"But he answered and said, I am not
sent but unto
the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew,
15:24)

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  Littlelamb on Mon 01 Jun 2009, 11:29 pm

Things about JESUS: He never looked back. HE stayed focused on what HE was CALLED to DO. HE DIED for our sins. HE CONQUERED the GRAVE and DEATH. HE said, "It is FINISHED". HE was seen again, after the CROSS. HE completed HIS TASK. HE was RESURRECTED, in front of WITNESSES. HE sent us a HELPER, the HOLY SPIRIT. HE is WITH us. HE never leaves or forsakes us. HE is SEATED on the RIGHT HAND of the FATHER! HE LIVES! HE is COMING AGAIN.


JESUS is GOD'S SON. A TRUE GOD, that never dies, or fails us.

HE loves you too, otherwise, you would not be here.


May the LORD BLESS you, today!


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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  ChristianLady on Tue 02 Jun 2009, 1:15 pm

Didn't he heal a centurion's son, was he a jew? You only stick to one verse and base your whole study on it. This is what Jesus said
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mat_15:23
But he answered her not a word - This was done to test her faith, and that there might be exhibited to the apostles an example of the effect of persevering supplication.

The result shows that it was not unwillingness to aid her, or neglect of her. It was proper that the strength of her faith should be fully tried.

Mat_15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent ... - This answer was made to the woman, not to the disciples.

The “lost sheep of the house of Israel” were the Jews. He came first to them. He came as their expected Messiah. He came to preach the gospel himself to the Jews only. Afterward it was preached to the Gentiles, but the ministry of Jesus was confined almost entirely to the Jews.

Mat_15:25
She came and worshipped - That is, bowed down to him or did him reverence.

Regarding you trying to save us from hell, for your kind information we have already been saved by the blood of Jesus Christ that He shed on the cross for us.

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Re: The God That Never Was

Post  derprinz on Thu 04 Jun 2009, 1:50 am

The Bible is also crystal
clear that Jesus was specifically sent the lost sheep of Israel only, so it seems the
Bible is in contradiction with it self and that some Biblical authors wanted to evolve
Jesus' character, let us read Matthew 15:24:

Mat 15:24 But he
answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

How more clear can it become?
So the fact is Jesus said he sent to the lost sheep of Israel, not the world, so this is a
problem the Christians have to settle.

These
twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not
into the way of the Gentiles
, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of
Israel. (matthew 10:5-6)

Note Jesus even tells his disciples to not go to the Gentiles! So this is an obvious
modification in the Gospel by John, he wants to make it seem that Jesus was sent for
everyone when he clearly wasn’t, nor did he tell his disciples to go to the gentiles"when the son of man (Jesus referring to himself) shall sit on
the throne of his glory, ye (the disciples) also shall sit upon twelve
thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel" (Matthew 19: 28)

we have already been saved by the blood of Jesus Christ that He shed on the cross for us.
Chapter Psalm 91 clearly and indisputably
confirms that Jesus never got crucified!
(Please pay specially attention to Psalm 91:11-12,
15
)


Psalm 91


1
He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.

[a]


2 I
will say
[b]
of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust."

3
Surely he will save you
from the fowler's snare and from the deadly pestilence.

4
He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

5
You will not fear
the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day,

6
nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday.

7 A
thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.

8
You will only observe with
your eyes
and
see the punishment of the wicked.
(According to the Noble Quran and the original
writings of the Disciples of Jesus,
Jesus was not
crucified
, and he watched the
crucifixion of the doomed person).
9
If you make the Most High your dwelling— even the LORD, who is my refuge-


10
then no harm will befall
you
, no disaster will come near your tent.
11
For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;



12
they will lift you up in their hands,so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
(If Jesus died on
the cross and got buried, then his feet would've struck the ground and
the stones on it from bringing him down, throwing him
on the floor
and burying him).
13
You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent.

14
"Because he loves me,"
says the LORD,


"I will rescue him;
I will protect him,
for he acknowledges my name.

15
He will call upon me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.

16
With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation."
There is no question that the emphasized parts above, especially in
Psalm
91:11-12, 15 and the others
, clearly and indisputably agree with the
Noble Quran's and Isaiah 52:13
Verses
"Death"
in
Isaiah 53:9 proven to be symbolic is using the Hebrew Lexicon
and several English translations,
and it never meant a literal death
Important Note:
Psalm 91 is speaking as a number of Prophecies that
WILL take place.
Notice how the verses are speak of future events that
WILL TAKE PLACE. Never
once throughout the entire New Testament were the Angels sent to
save Jesus from striking his foot against a rock. This,
again, clearly proves that the NT is indeed false and corrupt

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Post  Littlelamb on Thu 04 Jun 2009, 4:57 pm

Derprinz, it is clear, that the LORD has brought you here for a reason. You are searching for TRUTH. My prayer is that the LORD will REVEAL HIS TRUTH to you. May you be BLESSED, in our LORD and SAVIOR, CHRIST JESUS. I love you

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