Are Phantoms and Ghost - by Lee Martone

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Are Phantoms and Ghost - by Lee Martone

Post  Guest on Tue 18 Dec 2007, 3:44 pm

Are Phantoms and Ghost
The souls of our dead
Loved ones

The secular world view on ghost and spirits is just as twisted as there views on the Bible. They think that they can call to their dead who have passed on and talk to them through quija boards or crystal balls or through a medium or channeler. The soul of a human can not be reached by these or any other methods. If you are saved and have accepted Jesus Christ into your heart to be your Lord and savior, you go immediately to be with the Lord, and are in no further contact with the earth. If you on the other hand have not accepted Jesus Christ you will go immediately to Hell where the Bible says you canít get out. The souls that these mediums and channelers are actually talking to is nothing more than demons. All that can be reach on the other side is satanic forces. People like Jon Edwords from the show crossing over with John Edwords are workmen of Satan. I think people like John Edwords know exactly who they are in contact with and there not human. These diabolical spirits are not locked up in hell as the secular world would assume, these fallen angels are free to go through out the earth doing Satanís bidding. Another popular pagan belief is the false teaching of Reincarnation. The Bible is very clear on this subject, reincarnation is discounted totally by this scripture- Hebrews 9:27{And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,} there is no limbo no waiting to get into heaven, you have only one life and it belongs to God, so serve Him with your whole heart, and do not think that you will be able to make it up to Him in your next life because you wonít get one. In Philippians1:21-23 it says { For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. For I am hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better.} In the account of Lazarus and the rich man, scripture declares that the lost soul goes immediately into Hell - Luke 16:22-23 {Finally the beggar died and was carried by the angels to be with Abraham in the place of the righteous dead. The rich man also died and was buried, and his soul went into hell. There, in torment, he saw Lazarus in the far distance with Abraham.} Lee

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Post  ChristianLady on Tue 18 Dec 2007, 11:15 pm

Have you read the story of Prophet Samuel, King Saul and the medium?


Meanwhile, Samuel had died, and all Israel had mourned for him and buried him in his hometown Ramah. (Saul had rid the land of mediums and psychics.)
The Philistines assembled and camped in Shunem. Saul also assembled the whole Israelite army, and they camped at Gilboa.
When Saul looked at the Philistine army, he was very afraid-terrified.
He prayed to the LORD, but the LORD didn't answer him through dreams, the Urim, or prophets.
Saul told his officers, "Find me a woman who conjures up the dead. Then I'll go to her and ask for her services." His officers told him, "There is a woman at Endor who conjures up the dead."
After disguising himself by putting on other clothes, Saul left with two men and came to the woman that night. He said to her, "Please consult with a dead person for me. Conjure up the person I request."
The woman told him, "You know that Saul rid the land of mediums and psychics. Why are you trying to trap me and have me killed?"
But Saul took an oath in the LORD'S name, "I solemnly swear, as the LORD lives, you will not be harmed if you do this."
"Whom should I conjure up for you?" the woman asked. "Conjure up Samuel for me," he answered.
When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out loudly and asked, "Why did you deceive me? You're Saul!"
"Don't be afraid," the king said to her. "What do you see?" "I see a god rising from the ground," the woman answered.
"In what form?" he asked her. She answered, "An old man is coming up, and he's wearing a robe." Then Saul knew it was Samuel. Saul knelt down with his face touching the ground.
Samuel asked Saul, "Why did you disturb me by conjuring me up?" Saul answered, "I'm in serious trouble. The Philistines are at war with me, and God has turned against me and doesn't answer me anymore-either by the prophets or in dreams. So I've called on you to tell me what to do."
Samuel said, "Why are you asking me when the LORD has turned against you and become your enemy?
The LORD has done to you exactly what he spoke through me: The LORD has torn the kingship out of your hands and given it to your fellow Israelite David.
The LORD is doing this to you today because you didn't listen to him or unleash his burning anger on Amalek.
For the same reasons the LORD will hand you and Israel over to the Philistines. Tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. And then the LORD will hand Israel's army over to the Philistines."
Immediately, Saul fell flat on the ground. He was frightened by Samuel's words. He also had no strength left, because he hadn't eaten anything all day or all night.
The woman came over to Saul and saw that he was terrified. "I listened to you," she told him, "and I took my life in my hands when I did what you told me to do. (1 Samuel 28:3-21)

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Post  LivinginChrist on Wed 19 Dec 2007, 5:43 pm

Interesting info Lee, I thought evil spirits were those of evil men who died. I am impressed and I agree that they go directly to hell or heavens. I do not know anything about the unseen but it was nice info for me.

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now way out of hell- Lee

Post  Guest on Thu 20 Dec 2007, 4:39 am

In the time of
Samuel, when people died, they went to Abrahamís Bosom, Any soul that was in
Abrahamís Bosom was accessible to the Physical world, our plain of existence.
As we can see with Samuel. But now when we die we immediately go to be with the
Lord if you have his Spirit. When Jesus died he emptied out Abrahamís Bosom the
comfort side, that is, and took them to the third heaven. The suffering side is
still there to this very day, awaiting to resurrect for the day of judgment, at
the battle of Armageddon when God will make fire rain down from consuming them,
see
Revelation 20:9. Lee

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Post  goldentree on Thu 20 Dec 2007, 7:02 am

I also wondered whether the crystal ball is a trick or not until I went to see one because of one of my friends. What the lady told was quite true but I did not believe her because she talked a lot and asked many questions and I think she took out all the info before predicting. Anyhow, I believe most of them are hoax and some of them use demons as I could also feel some pressure at that time. It is quite a mystery how they do it yet there are many who believe in these mediums.

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